Another crazy shooting incident in TO.

Moi

well, what can i say
its been hectic this week..wow.

dont wanna kno wats gonna be on the news tomorrow
 
Torontonians are such pussies, lil Jamaica and Trinidad packing way more heat than Toronto, 16 murders and they getting on like the bottom drop out.

remember when I went TO in 2000, the places them calling ghettos was a normal area, not even intimidating at all.
 

Poca

Registered User
When I read the name I thought South African or maybe Armenian or something definitely not Caribbean.
 

Poca

Registered User
16 murders mean 16 human beings who will no longer walk on this earth. Should they start getting concerned only when the death toll reaches 16 murders a month?

Torontonians are such pussies, lil Jamaica and Trinidad packing way more heat than Toronto, 16 murders and they getting on like the bottom drop out.

remember when I went TO in 2000, the places them calling ghettos was a normal area, not even intimidating at all.
 
16 murders mean 16 human beings who will no longer walk on this earth. Should they start getting concerned only when the death toll reaches 16 murders a month?
yeah they should, but a big metropolitan cities bound to have a couple murders, they should be concerned but sometimes they take it overboard a bit.
 

sankofaa

New member
that's what I am getting at. lol

however, that last name seems African to me but I could be wrong. I watched the National tonight, and there was no more detailed mention of the shooter that was arrested. Two more are still at large though.

Toronto's mayor said he didnt believe in those after school prevention programs for at risk youth - called the programs "Hug a Thug".
thats awesome lol
 

sankofaa

New member
he just means that even over here in the states we're used to multiple murders a day in the major cities. 16 murders is like the suburbs over here lol
 

Poca

Registered User
I know that to others 16 may seem like nothing, but 16 murders also mean that 16 family lost a member and for them as well as for the community is general it is 16 too many. We should not compare ourselves to those who are worse than us because we'll never improve.
 
I know that to others 16 may seem like nothing, but 16 murders also mean that 16 family lost a member and for them as well as for the community is general it is 16 too many. We should not compare ourselves to those who are worse than us because we'll never improve.
true, but Toronto is a growing city, with tons of immigrants, they have to try to keep up a good social atmosphere or else things will go downhill. Maybe they need to slow down on immigration and try to fix the small existing social problems.
 

LB

Peace Love n Pretty Tings
thats awesome lol
I know right? lol
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Let's keep some perspective here. What has ppl up in arms about this shooting is that it wasnt just other gang member targeted and a random bystander got shot. They opened fired on a mixed gathering of ppl during a summer block party and 23 other people including a toddler were injured. A little girl was killed along with a gang-banger and that gets everyone's blood going.

Same ish with the Eaton Centre shooting. The shooter was spraying a crowded area to catch one person and didnt give a damn who caught a bullet either.
Even that doesnt happen on average in the States where they just spray into a crowd like so vs targeting someone one and stray bullets catching someone else.

And this is a different country with crime stats that normally arent high. So why should Canadians be non-chalant about crime stats that is out of*their* norm? If its high for that area, its high for them and ppl will be upset by it.

If you live in the burbs in the States and then all of a sudden u crime rate spikes to that of the inner city, no one would complain? right.....
 

DerMonger

Active member
Hard to believe I had a co-worker that moved here from Winnipeg, he told me he felt so much safer here compared to Winnipeg. It was like a big stress relief off his back.

I was surprised to hear that given the large differences in population between the cities.

It could be a lot worse.......look at Colorado today.
 

Poca

Registered User
I heard that Winnipeg is not easy at all. I have a friend who moved to Montreal from Calgary and she had to drive through Manitoba and she was told to be very careful because driving in some areas can be really dangerous.
 

LB

Peace Love n Pretty Tings
Winnipeg has always been a hell hole from way back. Couldnt pay me to even visit there again. That and those damn airplane size mosquitos....
 

Fidel

Registered User
It's unfortunate that T.dot seems to be erupting now. I hope that whatever is brewing will get under control because it will turn very ugly.
My man, you need to learn about the world. Toronto has almost 3 million people and a few dozen murders a year. Thats far from "erupting".
 

Poca

Registered User
Toronto gun violence rages as politicians debate solutions - Toronto - CBC News


Toronto gun violence rages as politicians debate solutions
3 shootings hit Toronto late Friday and early Saturday, hours after peace march
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Play iconImmigration Minister Jason Kenney expands on his comments supporting Toronto Mayor Rob Ford's call for tougher sentencing and the banishment from the city of criminals convicted of gun crimesKenney weighs in on Toronto shootings7:34
Play iconResidents of Toronto are trying to put a shocking week of gun violence behind them, but is it really a more violent year than past ones?Call for peace in Toronto2:31

On Friday night in Toronto, people marched for peace. Then the shooting began anew.

Toronto hip-hop artist P. Reign hosted an "Angel Walk" on Friday evening in the area of Danzig Street in Scarborough — a tribute to Shyanne Charles, 14, and Joshua Yasay, 23, two bystanders who were shot and killed in a shootout that also injured 23 in what is described as the worst shooting event in the city's history. Hundreds took part in the march, which included the release of doves.

But before the night was over, three separate shootings across the city had sent four people to hospital.

Just before 10 p.m. ET on Friday, Toronto police were called out to Driftwood Court, in the area of Jane and Finch streets.

A man had been shot in the head and was taken to hospital in life-threatening condition.

Then at about 11:30 p.m., at Jane and Bloor streets, two men were found in a vehicle suffering from gunshot wounds. A 19-year-old had been shot in the leg while a 21-year-old was shot in the arm.

A witness at the scene told CBC News she was trying to cross the street when a black Toyota Yaris sped by and then stopped. The two men got out of the car and fell to the ground bleeding.

Both victims were transported to hospital with non-life-threatening injuries.

The suspect is described as a dark-skinned black man in his late teens, 5'9", with a shaved head. He was wearing a white T-shirt.

Then at 4 a.m. Saturday, a 43-year-old man was sent to hospital after being shot several times in the mid-section in the area of Kennedy Road and Ellesmere Avenue. His injuries are not life-threatening.

There have now been six shootings in Toronto since Monday night, killing four people in all. Police are asking people with information to call police or Crime Stoppers anonymously at 416-222-8477.
Shooting statistics up

Prior to Friday night, there were 147 shootings involving 209 victims — a 62 per cent increase in victims compared to this time last year.
A police cruiser is parked in Pickering outside the visitation services for Joshua Yasay.A police cruiser is parked in Pickering outside the visitation services for Joshua Yasay. (Charlsie Agro/CBC)

Friends and family have been attending a visitation for Yasay in Pickering on Saturday afternoon. Media are not allowed inside, but CBC's Charlsie Agro said attendees tell her there is some anger but mostly sadness in the building.

Yasay's friends said the Toronto Raptors basketball team gave his family a personalized jersey that is on display, Agro reported.

She could see many young children arriving, as well as a police presence.

The unprecedented Danzig Street shooting, as well as a number of other shootings in the midst of large crowds, have ignited a debate about how best to deal with gun violence.

Black community leaders are calling for more support for youth programs, but Mayor Rob Ford calls those "hug-a-thug" programs and wants a crackdown on gun crime, including banishing gun criminals from the city after they have served their sentences.

The federal government has already thrown cold water on Ford's exile idea.

Coun. Michael Thompson, who represents the ward of Scarborough Centre, said Saturday that part of the focus needs to be on community housing.

"Some of the incidents that we have actually seen here in the city of Toronto have taken place in, at, near or on Toronto Community Housing properties," he said. "We're going to have to deal with that problem."

After the Danzig Street shooting, which was in a community housing area, CEO Gene Jones said anyone on the housing organization's property with a gun will be arrested and anyone they visit will be evicted.

Meanwhile, Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty has called for a balanced approach that deals with both criminals and the root causes of crime.

McGuinty, Ford, and Toronto police Chief Bill Blair are scheduled to meet Monday to discuss the issue. McGuinty said he also expects a federal government representative to take part
 

BalancingAct

Registered User
I know right? lol
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Let's keep some perspective here. What has ppl up in arms about this shooting is that it wasnt just other gang member targeted and a random bystander got shot. They opened fired on a mixed gathering of ppl during a summer block party and 23 other people including a toddler were injured. A little girl was killed along with a gang-banger and that gets everyone's blood going.

Same ish with the Eaton Centre shooting. The shooter was spraying a crowded area to catch one person and didnt give a damn who caught a bullet either.
Even that doesnt happen on average in the States where they just spray into a crowd like so vs targeting someone one and stray bullets catching someone else.

And this is a different country with crime stats that normally arent high. So why should Canadians be non-chalant about crime stats that is out of*their* norm? If its high for that area, its high for them and ppl will be upset by it.

If you live in the burbs in the States and then all of a sudden u crime rate spikes to that of the inner city, no one would complain? right.....
He was an innocent victim as well, not a gang banger
 
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