Lol, maybe you can convey to me what you agree with, spoke with three Trinis in person, and none can explain what they agree with, so you a non Trini, and I assume non emotional, what is your take ?Just watched the video and I do agree with Blaxx tbh
Lol, maybe you can convey to me what you agree with, spoke with three Trinis in person, and none can explain what they agree with, so you a non Trini, and I assume non emotional, what is your take ?
All they on is an emotional rant, so can you expound why and what you agree with him on... ?
Btw, regarding your previous comments, you do realize like most islands that had slaves that Jamaica , documented back in 1770s celebrated Junkanoo too like Bahamas......you do realize that right ?
So it is at best laughable to claim most of these islands one way or another didn't partake in some form of carnival one way or the other......
Re the current format, which was Xerox from the other islands, mainly Trinidad back in the early 1940s when UWI open up......and the eastern Caribbean students started the fetes, then the UWI carnival that up to this year is still held on the campus grounds before the Official Jamaica carnival, then with with help of Trini mas organizers, etc help Byron Lee who is a lover of Soca to bring that current format to Jamaica in 1989, then it went official in the early 90s......hopefully you have now a better timeline of this !
You claim JA carnival is not as good as Trini & Grenada, I challenge you on that.......please post your reviews or when you attended, what years , etc
I want to make sure you not one of these dotish emotional ppl that like to talk and make baseless statements without any sort of proof what so ever......thx.
Back to Blaxx,
What we know so far. Machel in a fete, backstage with at best let's say 7 artists, Machel claim JA Carnival is the best......then he claim he was on stage when it was said....so at best let's also assume 500 Yardies heard that statement.......laughable at best, because it was a month later, no one posted it , etc
Now Blaxx claim he is defending Panorama, Soca Monarch, etc. . So, i am assuming by that punk ass statement, he is assuming that Machel is saying, dont come to Trinidad carnival, go to Jamaica Carnival......mind you, one is in February, the other in April, so i dont see what to defend..
Another thing these emotional ppl are missing.....this is the deal here imo, Blaxx was charge up, per him, he had 2 Johnnie, promoter said to him, Blaxx , i know i said you getting 2k, but all the ppl went to Machel show....so i have to cut back your money, we didnt pull the crowd what we ecpected, now Blaxx get on stage, realize the P Diddy of the Ting, the culture, Double M in a fete competing with them....have the crowd...hence the outburst, f Machel......
Okay, so please explain in a non emotional way, what you agree with Blaxx on.....
Thanks in advance, waiting for a rational thinking person to explain ....
Jason,You need to understand what is being said, what blaxx is saying is correct and had a right to defend the culture and the original.he was no way emotional and in no way out of timing. Machel on the other hand is not as he make himself out to be, thinking and acting in ways he thinks only he can get away with.Trinidad Carnival will always be bigger than Machel Montano.the thing with machel is that he is a selfish selllout out only for his gains and his ego, to say jamaica carnival is better than trinidad own is to say F Trinidad my alliance is Jamaica and i will say it to jamaica with no remorse or apology. when is the same trinis who have machel where he is now,when machel in 98 or 99 said F trinidad and left on his alantic deal. we survived and thrived and grew without machel to the point it made him angry. Machel is never about Unity and muisc.he is about trying to make himself some bob marley for soca when he will never be.he has done more harm to soca dan good.he never changed soca just destroyed it more dan it already is.him pandering to the Jamaicans saying allyuh better is like him trying to destory trinidad culture and telling everyone dont come to the original but come to jamaica.
second on Jamaica being better than trinidad in carnival,please stop dreaming. Jamaica carnival is alright but can never be like Trinidad and its Culture when come to the carnival it self. many aspects of what makes carnival carnival are rooted in Trinidad culture. mas d gra ,panorama,calypos fiesta etc etc
Jamaicans infusing dancehall in to carnival is one of the most awkward and disingenius thing i ever saw and trinidadians like bunji and machel an others playing to that tune means its all a lickbuttom scene. its like the jamaicans complaining and arguing about soca during carnival season. you all have dancehall played 300 days a year in most caribbean island with out outcrys, yet when it a play in jamaica you all complain and argue about no support dancehall no support we own culture in jamaica ,oh how trinidadian culture coming to take over Jamaica and we will not support it etc etc. its always ok for a Jamaican for stand for his own but when a Trinidadian icon like blaxx speaks what Trinis will say to machel, trinis need to stop being emotional???? come on socapineman, i bet you if a Jamaican come Trinidad and say how Soca Mornarch better than Sting or reggae summer splash. he will get crucified and lose his main base which is the jamaican market. or better trinidadian dancehall better than jamaica own...never will they say that, they will quicker say trinidad is my second home and me love it hear rather dan say anything that will piss of there Jamaican people! so again socapineman ease of blaxx ,let the man defend his culture and country as its his rights. oh by the way Grenada carnival cant be compared with trinidad carnival either. thats like small pebble next to big boulders or big stones
Thanks for taking the time to explain it from your point of view.
Ok, here goes my rebuttal, wow, you must know a lot of ppl with shallow view points, i dont just openly agree that other islands can't do Reggae or Dancehall better.....mjust because i was born there, and i get it , my view would be the minority!
I am of the belief that anyone can better your best!
Where i have a problem with debates like these is when the originators don't get their due credit like it started here, by xyz.
Re Blaxx, i hear you, trust me.
Would i be offended if Beenie stood on stage in the oval and claim Trini DH, Reggae is better, i would have no issue with that as there is a God above, now , that is his opinion, i am not shallow to think others cant do it better!
Look at Lucky Dube, and others.
Imo, only simpleton defend from a patriotic point of view unless they dissin where it started and by who.
Sorry man, didnt get to finsh off, because you made a lot of great points that i will addr later, btw, i was saying i wouldnt be offended if Beenie said that.....then again, i get it, you do what the Romans do in Rome....will addr the remainder later.now i fully agree on everything you said.but also you have to remember carnival is a business and when one of the big artist jeprodize your main business its harmful to that said business! i agree everyone should share in the spoils while respecting the originators! but also bear in mind money is made from said business such as Trinidad carnival tourism and marketability! and this same issues goes to bunji garlin also
"Footsteps" was written by Farmer Nappy and Machel Montano and was produced by Machel Montano and Samuel Jack who were all members of Xtatik back in 1998 when the song was released and won the T&T road march. I have a vinyl copy of that album with all the credit details on the album jacket for all the songs.yea it was all over the news at that time, but he left the band so the sue wasnt followed through
nope he wasnt pissed at machel he was pissed at the annoyance of the promoter saying how d crowd eh pull when he blaxx came to enjoy himself and sing his song.
i remember this skatta from a few years back where he ask to ban soca in jamaica.
listening to him speak , it doh really say to me he supports soca or appreciates soca, but appreciates what soca events can do to promote his brand and reggae music summerfest etc
he is still badmind to me, he dont speak from appreciation but intimidation to soca, second if the jamaican people dont support dancehall as he wants them to he cant force them to .
its like we telling people n trinidad stop listening to dancehall. when they still will listen to dancehall cause thats what they like and identify with. its like this to me..if you want to promote reggae r dancehall don't do it in soca events or season cause to me it just seems like ripping of or just leeching of ah soca events..you have 300 days a year to do dat when dancehall ah only play in jamaica do it at that time not when soca season is in or around and that is what i look at as disrespect on skatta attempt. i have more to go off on skatta but ill leave it for tomorrow when i gather my thoughts on him.
now on jamaica, to me i have been following it for years and i kknow about the support that coporate and government gives to soca which is why i say jamaican people against it or the dancehall ghetto crowd.i support jamaica carnival, heck i even supported n still to this day listen to his music(linky first). heck when he came trinidad he got mad love and appreciation an respect when he came. well i wont go off on beenie man cause to me he is a caribbean man to me .not a jamaican, a west indian to me , when he the biggest artist in jamaica and dancehall at that time came in carnival an sang jump and wine and partake in carnival before jump and wine song ,when jamaicans was cursing him an calling him a battyman an he still said f u and became a fixture in our carnvial scene years gone by. he is respected by me. and i cud go on to byron lee and his influence etc etc.i have always loved and appreciated the unity between jamaica and trinidad sharing and expressing cultural unity. so trust me im not no bitter badmind trini
now to blaxx, the reason he said f machel is because the promoter was telling him how machel show take most of the supporter or patrons at borough day and blaxx said he was just like f machel. doh study machel , we come to enjoy we self why study machel. so it came of as him cursing machel off when he was just saying screw that issue why study that and just enjoy yuhslf.
now on who has represented trinidad as much as machel.well superblue before coke took him. heck david rudder , general grant etc
ask any non machel fan why machel left trinidad. is only cause his deal didnt pan out he came crawling backto trinidad playing mister trini etc etc when he told us f us and left us for his alantic deal. ask any fan in trinidad : who kill of brass festival(a national carnival event where bands can show case there talent and songs etc), because they went over there time in brass festival and when told to come of stage , they got so enraged and pissed and ego kicked in so deh decided to create machel monday(my own event where i can put who i want and sing what i want). or when machel who was head of xtatic at that time and front singer decided to sue his bandmate wayne Rodriguez who sang foot steps and won road march. so instead of lettin his band mate get a shine he decided to state that he co wrote the song and wanted shine to and money at that time etc etc. dont be fooled by the new machel it have now .a wolf in sheep clothing to me.
"Footsteps" was written by Farmer Nappy and Machel Montano and was produced by Machel Montano and Samuel Jack who were all members of Xtatik back in 1998 when the song was released and won the T&T road march. I have a vinyl copy of that album with all the credit details on the album jacket for all the songs.
As far as prize monies is concerned Machel had a legal right to a portion of the winnings since Wayne Rodriguez was simply given the song to sing as a member of Xtatik. From a business perspective we can't blame Machel for expecting a portion of the prize monies as the leader of the Xtatik especially as he had a large hand in writing and producing "Footsteps" which ended up winning the 1998 T&T road march song.
In 1998 Machel's "Toro Toro" was also just as popular as "Footsteps" but the T&T authorities actually deemed the song too dangerous to be played in some of the Carnival fetes as many patrons were complaining about being trampled by overexcited crowds following the "charge toro toro mad bull" instructions of the song.
I actually credit "Toro Toro" as the first real head-gone mad-vibes power soca song that spurred a popular power soca style that was adopted many years later in the 2000's by many of the soca artists from some of the smaller Caribbean islands like St Vincent.