Debate: Who is to blame for the Death of the Black Family in America?

Socapro

Repect Our Soca Pioneers
We can't deny this reality and its getting worse and worse annually so who is to blame for the death of the Black family in America and how do we halt and reverse this trend?

Here is a point of view which we may not totally agree with but in which some valid points are made about who has been in charge of raising the majority of Black Households in America for the past 40 to 50 years.

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bktrini305

Registered User
I need to edit this. I haven't read it over yet.
Korea & Vietnam wars - Black soldiers getting put in more dangerous situations. Lots of black soldiers learning about opiates from the federal government and bringing the taste for them back to the US. (Blame Republicans) The term "that's dope" comes to describe anything that's so good it's addictive. Energy and real estate crises, in the 70s. Poorly managed social programs caused landlords burning down buildings in order to make money from them. (Blame Democrats) The buildings became dope houses, brothels, and seedy businesses of various kinds catering to the newly formed junkies from Vietnam. "Panther" movements (black, pink, red, etc) are formed on the west coast and the Folk and People Nations are born in Chicago, all to increase children's access to education with a distinct african american flair. Republicans adopt the Southern Strategy which ignores the votes of African Americans in favor of "negrophobe whites"

War on Drugs (Blame Republicans) - Causes an immediate increase in drug use and drug culture. On the east coast, children were abducted, parents became addicted in even greater numbers. Random acts of violence, lack of human services, & decaying infrastructure made the cities look like jungles. And large raids made police look like hunters of animals. Panthers, Folk and People, are executed (Both parties).
On the west coast- due to the sprawl, entire cultures of children, those partially educated by the panther's form various gangs and mark territories. These gangs join with Folk and become the Crips. In response, the remaining gangs join with People and become the bloods. the two gangs would raise 2 or 3 generations of children to fight one another. Families are not formed by genetics but by gang affiliation and the proximity to other more nuclear-esque families drags other children into the mix.

Ronald Mothafukkin Reagan, AIDS, and Crack - MIA, LA, NYC were the main ports of entry for cocaine. The new Cheap form of cocaine (incidentally cocaine was brought to the US by Mark Twain) that's more addictive than dope. If the cities had horrendous crime rates in the 70s, the crime rate was insane in the 80s and early 90s. And it affected black and hispanic people the most.

In addition, the new form of cancer that affected gay men (NY & LA), Haitians (Miami), and dope users (everywhere vietnams vets are found) was ignored by Reagan's governments. By this time in history gays, Haitians and dope users congregated in the poorest neighborhoods with African Americans and set the derivative for their acquiring of the new immune deficiency syndrome (is it turns out, thats what it was)

Both of these epidemics occurring at the same time were not helped but hindered by president Reagan coining the term "Welfare Queen" in order to divert public attention from the issues of the poor and black. The war on drugs escalated, even though the Reagan Administration was caught trafficking. (two forces hurting black people from opposite sides, drugs and the police)

Today the group of people known as African Americans are a battered woman whom society has told to get on with it and get a job.
 

Farinborn

readin btwn da lines
305, all of that is fine and good historic info. However, that wouldnt have been able to take place if (during those times) Black folks as a community stood their ground and not participated in that war where opiats and what not got introduced to them. Its still the black communities fault.

Taking notes from what the moors speak of (sovereignty), we would be right where the jews are if we had a sence of community. Held reach other accountable for the actions one took.

I see a lot of down talking about the black male vs the black female. Each one has there role. In America the roles are so confused. Men dont understad women and vise versa. Nothing but confusion. So people do what they want. I will admit ,the average A.A. male is weak, we are told so many things it gets confusing. So the average one says f'it, i just go with the flow, snowball effect. Then begings the acceptance of snything and everything ;why, because no one knows who they are. No foundation, building blocks are null and void.

Hence, today's black family.
 

bktrini305

Registered User
305, all of that is fine and good historic info. However, that wouldnt have been able to take place if (during those times) Black folks as a community stood their ground and not participated in that war where opiats and what not got introduced to them. Its still the black communities fault.
I disagree. Its all to easy to create an addict. I don't know how you could blame a soldier in hell for looking for relief. And i don't know what you think they should have done or said that wasn't done or said.
 

Oneshot

where de crix
I need to edit this. I haven't read it over yet.
Korea & Vietnam wars - Black soldiers getting put in more dangerous situations. Lots of black soldiers learning about opiates from the federal government and bringing the taste for them back to the US. (Blame Republicans) The term "that's dope" comes to describe anything that's so good it's addictive. Energy and real estate crises, in the 70s. Poorly managed social programs caused landlords burning down buildings in order to make money from them. (Blame Democrats) The buildings became dope houses, brothels, and seedy businesses of various kinds catering to the newly formed junkies from Vietnam. "Panther" movements (black, pink, red, etc) are formed on the west coast and the Folk and People Nations are born in Chicago, all to increase children's access to education with a distinct african american flair. Republicans adopt the Southern Strategy which ignores the votes of African Americans in favor of "negrophobe whites"

War on Drugs (Blame Republicans) - Causes an immediate increase in drug use and drug culture. On the east coast, children were abducted, parents became addicted in even greater numbers. Random acts of violence, lack of human services, & decaying infrastructure made the cities look like jungles. And large raids made police look like hunters of animals. Panthers, Folk and People, are executed (Both parties).
On the west coast- due to the sprawl, entire cultures of children, those partially educated by the panther's form various gangs and mark territories. These gangs join with Folk and become the Crips. In response, the remaining gangs join with People and become the bloods. the two gangs would raise 2 or 3 generations of children to fight one another. Families are not formed by genetics but by gang affiliation and the proximity to other more nuclear-esque families drags other children into the mix.

Ronald Mothafukkin Reagan, AIDS, and Crack - MIA, LA, NYC were the main ports of entry for cocaine. The new Cheap form of cocaine (incidentally cocaine was brought to the US by Mark Twain) that's more addictive than dope. If the cities had horrendous crime rates in the 70s, the crime rate was insane in the 80s and early 90s. And it affected black and hispanic people the most.

In addition, the new form of cancer that affected gay men (NY & LA), Haitians (Miami), and dope users (everywhere vietnams vets are found) was ignored by Reagan's governments. By this time in history gays, Haitians and dope users congregated in the poorest neighborhoods with African Americans and set the derivative for their acquiring of the new immune deficiency syndrome (is it turns out, thats what it was)

Both of these epidemics occurring at the same time were not helped but hindered by president Reagan coining the term "Welfare Queen" in order to divert public attention from the issues of the poor and black. The war on drugs escalated, even though the Reagan Administration was caught trafficking. (two forces hurting black people from opposite sides, drugs and the police)

Today the group of people known as African Americans are a battered woman whom society has told to get on with it and get a job.

and what about the democrat sponsored social work thinking, a man can be replaced by a pay check. and BTW drug trafficing / gun running also took place under Clinton, and Obama administration.
 

GSUM

Registered User
Total ahlah dat whiteman still to blame, ah dem mek it possible fi it fi happen. Cyaa blame we alone considering di circumstances we did find wiself inna. (slavery, downpression, uneployment, brutalizatiion, all planned parenthood deh fi destroy we (think about that). Dat mi ah seh) white babylonian civilazation and di stripping ah we culture fi blame.
 

Farinborn

readin btwn da lines
@305, an addict can only be an addict if theyre willing to take the drug. What im stating is that if the socalled black family was together at that time ,full hundred, they would've stated as a community that the said war had nothing to do with the so called black community. It wouldve remained the "whitemans" war.

I like the mooors and there stance on sovereignty.
 

bktrini305

Registered User
@305, an addict can only be an addict if theyre willing to take the drug. What im stating is that if the socalled black family was together at that time ,full hundred, they would've stated as a community that the said war had nothing to do with the so called black community. It wouldve remained the "whitemans" war.

I like the mooors and there stance on sovereignty.
Well that's naive, particularly in the historical situation and particularly with heroine's course of withdrawal. Who the hell knew what heroine was in the US? Poor blacks?.

No offense but how old are you? Where are you from? How does one come to say something like that?

and there is no telling what the black community's opinion on the war would have been. in fact, conservative middle class african americans would have probably been as divided as middle class white people. didn't you see the butler? (lol).

Seriously though, if you saw the war as being about keeping the world from falling into communism, you were for it. And if you saw the war as being about kennedy trying to get France their colony back you were against it. Nothing about this has anything to do with how the war was conducted (sending the darkies to die first)
 

Inquistive

New member
Nobody is to blame. It's just a result of socioeconomic influences.

Progressives would argue that the de-industrialization of our inner cities left black men without any careered prospects(Remember blacks were disproportionately housed in urban centers during those decades). Thus, leaving them ill equiped to form any households. Conservatives blame the welfare state. Welfare programs aren't to blame since benefits decreased as out of wedlock births increased. Then you have others who says it's the war on drugs. I think that's only a symptom of what progressives insinuate for the root of the problem.


Then again, you have the increased percentage of women becoming part of the workforce. Men was one time expected to be breadwinners, which left women dependent upon marriage. Now that women have more employment opportunities, marriage goes on the back burner. One social aspect is less need for shotgun marriages since society has become more socially liberal in the last several decades.

It's a result of multiple factors.
 

bktrini305

Registered User
and what about the democrat sponsored social work thinking, a man can be replaced by a pay check. aand BTW drug trafficing / gun running also took place under Clinton, and Obama administration.
the obama clinton thing... what's your point? That they could have stopped drug trafficking? or that obama and clinton also trafficked drugs??



and i don't know what the bolded means. Could u expound on that too?
 
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