Jamaican broadcaster and comedian "Johnny" harassed by Trini immigration officers

Missmayling

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Unless, like most Jamaicans I know, you have real colour hangups, why on earth does it matter to you what complexion I am???

Does that not demonstrate how you see this whole race issue through a personal lense, motivated by emotion rather than reason??

How exactly would my skin colour bear any relevance to what I have said in this thread???

This is why you Jamaicans use so much skin bleach. Because you carry around with you a deep colour shame.

Whatever colour I am, trust me, i do not bleach or darken my skin artificially and I am very much at ease in my own skin, no pun intended.
Most Jamaicans that you seem to know are hookers, pimps, bleachers and gangsters that sit down all day listening to homophobic music. You are proud to talk about being a Bahamian, but you are ashamed of your race.
 

robblaten

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You have Black people and then you have N......
with every post that comes from you and that Lioness idiot, you prove my points. You have no idea what complexion i am, yet you are fixated with it. You are obviously yet one more skin bleaching yardie with hangups. A female Vybz Kartel perhaps.
 

robblaten

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Most Jamaicans that you seem to know are hookers, pimps, bleachers and gangsters that sit down all day listening to homophobic music. You are proud to talk about being a Bahamian, but you are ashamed of your race.
Haha. You say I am ashamed of my 'race', yet it is me who is absolutely indifferent to the idea of 'race' and recognises it as a tool and creation of purist European supremacists. And it is you that ridicules the idea that (you hope) I am black as tar......wow, you skin bleachers are messed up.
 

robblaten

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Most Jamaicans that you seem to know are hookers, pimps, bleachers and gangsters that sit down all day listening to homophobic music. You are proud to talk about being a Bahamian, but you are ashamed of your race.
Anyone wondering why Missmayling and Lioness are so obsessed with my skin colour needs to understand the deep colour consciousness and shame at the centre of the Jamaican psyche.

It has often been observed by sociologists that being light skinned is maybe the single most important electoral asset a politician can have in Jamaica. Of their post independence PMs, only two have not been very fair skinned. One has been essentially white and the two unambiguously black ones have faced criticism concerned mostly with whether they were 'polished' enough to be a PM.

Skin bleaching now exists in Jamaica at epidemic levels, EVEN AMONG MEN!!!!! There is virtually no shame there about the almost universal desire to escape 'blackness'.

Only when you recognise this will you understand Missmayling and Lioness' obsession with my skin complexion. They feel they need to know it in order to classify me and the things I say.

Damn, I can cry for Jamaica. The place really is sad and hopeless.
 
Anyone wondering why Missmayling and Lioness are so obsessed with my skin colour needs to understand the deep colour consciousness and shame at the centre of the Jamaican psyche.

It has often been observed by sociologists that being light skinned is maybe the single most important electoral asset a politician can have in Jamaica. Of their post independence PMs, only two have not been very fair skinned. One has been essentially white and the two unambiguously black ones have faced criticism concerned mostly with whether they were 'polished' enough to be a PM.

Skin bleaching now exists in Jamaica at epidemic levels, EVEN AMONG MEN!!!!! There is virtually no shame there about the almost universal desire to escape 'blackness'.

Only when you recognise this will you understand Missmayling and Lioness' obsession with my skin complexion. They feel they need to know it in order to classify me and the things I say.

Damn, I can cry for Jamaica. The place really is sad and hopeless.
r u sure about this? i was reading the comments in the observer and they were saying that they dont have racism in Jamaica like trinidad and everyone lives in peace and harmony
 

robblaten

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r u sure about this? i was reading the comments in the observer and they were saying that they dont have racism in Jamaica like trinidad and everyone lives in peace and harmony
VERY SURE. More skin bleaching cream is sold in Jamaica per capita than anywhere else on earth. Class and wealth there correlate almost exactly with skin tone.

That is why these to yardie junglists keep making hints and enquiring about my skin tone. They have the self-hate slave mentality worse than anywhere else in the region.
 
VERY SURE. More skin bleaching cream is sold in Jamaica per capita than anywhere else on earth. Class and wealth there correlate almost exactly with skin tone.

That is why these to yardie junglists keep making hints and enquiring about my skin tone. They have the self-hate slave mentality worse than anywhere else in the region.
wow u shocking dem like crazy

did u witness lots of bleachers while u were there
 

Missmayling

Registered User
with every post that comes from you and that Lioness idiot, you prove my points. You have no idea what complexion i am, yet you are fixated with it. You are obviously yet one more skin bleaching yardie with hangups. A female Vybz Kartel perhaps.
I asked you about your race not your complexion.
 

Missmayling

Registered User
Anyone wondering why Missmayling and Lioness are so obsessed with my skin colour needs to understand the deep colour consciousness and shame at the centre of the Jamaican psyche.

It has often been observed by sociologists that being light skinned is maybe the single most important electoral asset a politician can have in Jamaica. Of their post independence PMs, only two have not been very fair skinned. One has been essentially white and the two unambiguously black ones have faced criticism concerned mostly with whether they were 'polished' enough to be a PM.

Skin bleaching now exists in Jamaica at epidemic levels, EVEN AMONG MEN!!!!! There is virtually no shame there about the almost universal desire to escape 'blackness'.

Only when you recognise this will you understand Missmayling and Lioness' obsession with my skin complexion. They feel they need to know it in order to classify me and the things I say.

Damn, I can cry for Jamaica. The place really is sad and hopeless.

Hmmmmm... And I guess so many Bahamians are mixed by making up non african ancestry hoping that people do not know the history of the country . Let's you as an example. You claimed Seminole Indian ancestry and I had to be correct you its AA or seminole black. One random Egyptian and random swede showed up on the island when asked about the history of immigration of those groups to the island, as the British kept very good records about who immigrated to these countries.. Btw the Bahamas had a large population of Arabs during that time period from Barbados and Jamaica know as the west India regiment. Their uniforms were similar to what were worn by the Turkish, Egyptians and most of the the North African military at the time.
 

Missmayling

Registered User
wow u shocking dem like crazy

did u witness lots of bleachers while u were there

http://www.islandmix.com/backchat/f6/farrakhan-comes-t-t-month-249043/?highlight=Tvex

You must be one of the few black people from Trinidad who is comfortable with being black. You are part of my estimated 3% of Trinidadians who should actually be considered a black person. From what I see, you are a very small minority from your land. Trinidadians I see always talk about being mixed. They live for it. Tell a Trinidadian girl that she is pretty and somewhere she is going to tell you about her mix as if that's the main reason why she is attractive. Trinidadians remind me of the way black latinos think except you speak english. Farrakhan's message is wasted on people with this mentality unless he is speaking to my estimated 3%.
 

robblaten

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I asked you about your race not your complexion.
I long ago told you my view on 'race' (that it is 19th century European supremacist fiction that I do not endorse or accept), so your continued interrogation of me is really just a way to figure out how much blacker or whiter my skin is, which that idiot lioness came out and admitted in one of her recent posts. You are fixated with that, like all the other Jamaican bleachers.
 

robblaten

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http://www.islandmix.com/backchat/f6/farrakhan-comes-t-t-month-249043/?highlight=Tvex

You must be one of the few black people from Trinidad who is comfortable with being black. You are part of my estimated 3% of Trinidadians who should actually be considered a black person. From what I see, you are a very small minority from your land. Trinidadians I see always talk about being mixed. They live for it. Tell a Trinidadian girl that she is pretty and somewhere she is going to tell you about her mix as if that's the main reason why she is attractive. Trinidadians remind me of the way black latinos think except you speak english. Farrakhan's message is wasted on people with this mentality unless he is speaking to my estimated 3%.
May that have anything to do with the fact that Farrakhan is a narrow minded ignorant, 'race' fixated, brainwashed-into-being-a-negro idiot?.................wait a minute, I just remembered....his ancestry is JAMAICAN. Now it is beginning to make sense.

This of course is the same Farrakhan who straightens his hair, right?

Maybe the fact that 'black' Trinidadians do not have 'race'/complexion hangups is what confuses and stuns people like you and Farrakhan. When 'black' Trinidadians start bleaching themselves and straightening their hair and parting it like Farrakhan, and start migrating to Jamaica, then maybe the world will take people like you, Lioness and Farrakhan seriously. But somehow I don't see that happening in this millenium.
 

robblaten

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Hmmmmm... And I guess so many Bahamians are mixed by making up non african ancestry hoping that people do not know the history of the country . Let's you as an example. You claimed Seminole Indian ancestry and I had to be correct you its AA or seminole black. One random Egyptian and random swede showed up on the island when asked about the history of immigration of those groups to the island, as the British kept very good records about who immigrated to these countries.. Btw the Bahamas had a large population of Arabs during that time period from Barbados and Jamaica know as the west India regiment. Their uniforms were similar to what were worn by the Turkish, Egyptians and most of the the North African military at the time.
What are you talking about? Does your ignorance have no bounds? The Bahamas is a country with massive racial mixing and worldwide ancestry (Greek, English, Yoruba, Kongo, Igbo, Irish, Welsh), so why are you talking about 'random Swedes? Because you are somehow fixated with 'whites'.

You 'corrected' me about my Seminole ancestry without having a clue what you were talking about, so I did not bother to pursue it or correct you. I gave you one tiny example of my non-black ancestry (Swedish) and you make a big deal of it, as if it fixates you. I told you of my Egyptian great grandfather (my mother's Grandfather) and even that is 'white' enough to make you assume I am using it to show off (even though he was darker than the average 'black' Bahamian)

I said nothing to you of my English, Welsh, French and Irish. Of course if you heard them you would be even more convinced that I am 'making it up', since of course white is naturally superior to black in your thinking.

You NEVER accused me of 'making up' my African ancestry, did you? while my mother and grandmother are very near white, I told you that my father is pure Yoruba, from Fox Hill. Why am I not 'making up' that? The answer is simple. Because you are a typical Jamaican with colour hangups who sees 'black' as inferior to 'white' and (like Lioness) assumes anyone who tries to show the silliness of 'race' by pointing to his own ancestry is doing so to show he is 'whiter' than them and gets defensive.

I am SURE you bleach your skin. Come on and admit it.
 
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DiTriniempress

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May that have anything to do with the fact that Farrakhan is a narrow minded ignorant, 'race' fixated, brainwashed-into-being-a-negro idiot?.................wait a minute, I just remembered....his ancestry is JAMAICAN. Now it is beginning to make sense.

This of course is the same Farrakhan who straightens his hair, right?

Maybe the fact that 'black' Trinidadians do not have 'race'/complexion hangups is what confuses and stuns people like you and Farrakhan. When 'black' Trinidadians start bleaching themselves and straightening their hair and parting it like Farrakhan, and start migrating to Jamaica, then maybe the world will take people like you, Lioness and Farrakhan seriously. But somehow I don't see that happening in this millenium.

Well there is some black Trini girls who throw on wigs and say they dougla lol but black Trinis do not hate themselves as much as some black Jamaicans. Skin bleaching is the most ridiculous thing a black person could do and highest form of self hate. I was recently watching a vid on youtube and was disgusted. Also the fact that men were doing it made it so much worse lol
 

robblaten

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Hmmmmm... And I guess so many Bahamians are mixed by making up non african ancestry hoping that people do not know the history of the country . Let's you as an example. You claimed Seminole Indian ancestry and I had to be correct you its AA or seminole black. One random Egyptian and random swede showed up on the island when asked about the history of immigration of those groups to the island, as the British kept very good records about who immigrated to these countries.. Btw the Bahamas had a large population of Arabs during that time period from Barbados and Jamaica know as the west India regiment. Their uniforms were similar to what were worn by the Turkish, Egyptians and most of the the North African military at the time.
If you know ANYTHING about the Bahamas, you would know that complexion goes by Island, since different Islands have different ethnic histories. The people of Long Island (from which my mother hails) are mixed, about 70% European and 30% African. If you want an example, the basket ball player Rick Fox is one you may know. He is a close relative of my mother. Rick Fox is a typical Long Islander in complexion. His paternal grandfather is Irish and his maternal Great Grandfather was my Swedish ancestor. They both married black Bahamians and in the tiny genetic pool that is Long Island (3,000 inhabitants) these kinds of interactions produced a very mixed, but more slightly more European than African mix.

The people of Fox Hill, New Providence are all either Yoruba (like my father) or Bakongo, depending on which of the two settlements there they come from. That is where my Father is from. Knowing that has led me to study the Yoruba language, to develop an interest in the area and to trace my Yoruba ancestry back to 1841, when it appeared in the Bahamas.

I told you of my ancestry in an earlier thread to demonstrate how dumb and brainwashed (by European purists) it is to identify oneself as a 'race'. You have used it only to suggest I am trying to show off being light skinned. This is why I refuse to engage you by getting into my skin colour. I am not interested in skin colour. I am interested in humanity in all of its cultures and historical backgrounds, which is why I accept all of my personal history and seek to learn about the history and story of others - while you stew in your racialised cesspool.

Because, unlike you, I have NO COLOUR HANGUP. The fact you keep going on about my European background just demonstrates how screwed up you and many Jamaicans are and how you view 'whiteness' with such hate/admiration. That is also why you bleach your skin.
 
http://www.islandmix.com/backchat/f6/farrakhan-comes-t-t-month-249043/?highlight=Tvex

You must be one of the few black people from Trinidad who is comfortable with being black. You are part of my estimated 3% of Trinidadians who should actually be considered a black person. From what I see, you are a very small minority from your land. Trinidadians I see always talk about being mixed. They live for it. Tell a Trinidadian girl that she is pretty and somewhere she is going to tell you about her mix as if that's the main reason why she is attractive. Trinidadians remind me of the way black latinos think except you speak english. Farrakhan's message is wasted on people with this mentality unless he is speaking to my estimated 3%.
so i asked roblatten a question about bleachers and u came out for trinis? so you came up with 3%? how u came up with that figure, by your interaction with a select number of trinis in NYC? steups

as far as i know there are a large number of trinis, who are proud of blackness, some who are proud of "mixness", some who are proud of "indianess" and who are proud of whatever else. The thing is, in trinidad people are not forced to identify as black if they think they are mixed cuz most times they are mixed..there are some people who appear mixed and more proud of their blackness and their are some people who appear black and are more proud of their mixness...so what, its nothing to make a big deal out of!

and as far as i am concerned, jamaicans have more complexion and self hate issues than any other island in the region.

you wanna talk about we live for mixness (when we are largely a mixed country, right now the mixed population is at 24% on the offficial census, coming up from 10% from 30 years ago....and my estimates can put the mixed population as the majority race. So the ideology of being proud of being mixed will only increase.

Now what is laughable is jamaicans that like the talk about one island, many races, when they know its 90% black 8% mix and like 2% chinee, indian and ting

Jamaicans live for talking about how they got different races inna jamaica, and any time u ask them to name pretty jamaican girls they name yendi, tessanne, tami chin, lisa hanna, brick and lace and all the mix girls....just watch the history of yall miss universe and miss world contestants and put it up against ours...we have sent up probably 4 times the number of black girls than yalls.....alyuh now start send up black girls RECENTLY..dont forget the first and second black women to win miss universe were from trinidad and tobago....another ting alyuh now get a black prime minister in 1993, our first prime minister was black, we first got an indian prime minister in 1995....so Jamaica is not bastion of blackness and black pride....I could challenge u on that every time.
 

Missmayling

Registered User
May that have anything to do with the fact that Farrakhan is a narrow minded ignorant, 'race' fixated, brainwashed-into-being-a-negro idiot?.................wait a minute, I just remembered....his ancestry is JAMAICAN. Now it is beginning to make sense.

This of course is the same Farrakhan who straightens his hair, right?

Maybe the fact that 'black' Trinidadians do not have 'race'/complexion hangups is what confuses and stuns people like you and Farrakhan. When 'black' Trinidadians start bleaching themselves and straightening their hair and parting it like Farrakhan, and start migrating to Jamaica, then maybe the world will take people like you, Lioness and Farrakhan seriously. But somehow I don't see that happening in this millenium.
Oh, the poster that wrote that was part Bahamian. It must be genetics.
 

Missmayling

Registered User
If you know ANYTHING about the Bahamas, you would know that complexion goes by Island, since different Islands have different ethnic histories. The people of Long Island (from which my mother hails) are mixed, about 70% European and 30% African. If you want an example, the basket ball player Rick Fox is one you may know. He is a close relative of my mother. Rick Fox is a typical Long Islander in complexion. His paternal grandfather is Irish and his maternal Great Grandfather was my Swedish ancestor. They both married black Bahamians and in the tiny genetic pool that is Long Island (3,000 inhabitants) these kinds of interactions produced a very mixed, but more slightly more European than African mix.

The people of Fox Hill, New Providence are all either Yoruba (like my father) or Bakongo, depending on which of the two settlements there they come from. That is where my Father is from. Knowing that has led me to study the Yoruba language, to develop an interest in the area and to trace my Yoruba ancestry back to 1841, when it appeared in the Bahamas.

I told you of my ancestry in an earlier thread to demonstrate how dumb and brainwashed (by European purists) it is to identify oneself as a 'race'. You have used it only to suggest I am trying to show off being light skinned. This is why I refuse to engage you by getting into my skin colour. I am not interested in skin colour. I am interested in humanity in all of its cultures and historical backgrounds, which is why I accept all of my personal history and seek to learn about the history and story of others - while you stew in your racialised cesspool.

Because, unlike you, I have NO COLOUR HANGUP. The fact you keep going on about my European background just demonstrates how screwed up you and many Jamaicans are and how you view 'whiteness' with such hate/admiration. That is also why you bleach your skin.
Rick Fox

thnicity:
*Afro-Bahamian (father)
*Italian (maternal grandfather)
*Scottish (maternal grandmother)

Rick Fox is a Canadian-born NBA veteran and actor. His father is Afro-Bahamian and his mother, who was born in Canada, is of half Italian and half Scottish ancestry. Rick grew up in the Bahamas and spent some time in the United States for high school. Rick was married to African-American actress and model Vanessa L. Williams.

Rick’s maternal grandfather was Gabriel “Bob” Gerace, who was born in Trail, British Columbia, Canada, the son of Italian immigrants, Giusseppe Gerace and Concetta Granieri.

Rick’s maternal grandmother, Jean Paterson, was Scottish.

Rick Fox 'Meet the Browns' Interview with Kam Williams
Web Site of the Jamaica Defence Force
 

Missmayling

Registered User
so i asked roblatten a question about bleachers and u came out for trinis? so you came up with 3%? how u came up with that figure, by your interaction with a select number of trinis in NYC? steups

as far as i know there are a large number of trinis, who are proud of blackness, some who are proud of "mixness", some who are proud of "indianess" and who are proud of whatever else. The thing is, in trinidad people are not forced to identify as black if they think they are mixed cuz most times they are mixed..there are some people who appear mixed and more proud of their blackness and their are some people who appear black and are more proud of their mixness...so what, its nothing to make a big deal out of!

and as far as i am concerned, jamaicans have more complexion and self hate issues than any other island in the region.

you wanna talk about we live for mixness (when we are largely a mixed country, right now the mixed population is at 24% on the offficial census, coming up from 10% from 30 years ago....and my estimates can put the mixed population as the majority race. So the ideology of being proud of being mixed will only increase.

Now what is laughable is jamaicans that like the talk about one island, many races, when they know its 90% black 8% mix and like 2% chinee, indian and ting

Jamaicans live for talking about how they got different races inna jamaica, and any time u ask them to name pretty jamaican girls they name yendi, tessanne, tami chin, lisa hanna, brick and lace and all the mix girls....just watch the history of yall miss universe and miss world contestants and put it up against ours...we have sent up probably 4 times the number of black girls than yalls.....alyuh now start send up black girls RECENTLY..dont forget the first and second black women to win miss universe were from trinidad and tobago....another ting alyuh now get a black prime minister in 1993, our first prime minister was black, we first got an indian prime minister in 1995....so Jamaica is not bastion of blackness and black pride....I could challenge u on that every time.
I guess we are all F- up
 
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