Let's Compare Caribbean English Dialects and Creoles

Inquistive

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lol now you're just being an ass. The trini accent is probably the most non-rhotic accent outside of the UK lol
Idiot, the Trini accent is Rhotic.

"gorsh" is a Rhotic pronunciation.

A while back someone posted a video from Trinidad of a lady pronouncing "pawn" as "porn".
 
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Toppa_Toppa

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Idiot, the Trini accent is Rhotic.

"gorsh" is a Rhotic pronunciation.

A while back someone posted a video from Trinidad of a lady pronouncing "pawn" as "porn".
non-Rhotic is when you don't pronounce the 'r' unless it is before a vowel.

So even when we say 'gorsh' - the 'r' is still not heard but the 'o' is prolonged/stretched out.

Trini are non-rhotic but also have the intrusive R e.g 'Saw it' becomes 'Saw-rit' and the linking R.
 

SKBai1991

Registered User
Idiot, the Trini accent is Rhotic.

"gorsh" is a Rhotic pronunciation.

A while back someone posted a video from Trinidad of a lady pronouncing "pawn" as "porn".

Non-rhotic accents often exhibit a feature called an "intrusive R", in which they place the letter R in between or after vowels where there usually isn't one. But other than that, the Trinidadian accent is NOT Rhotic in the least lol.

Watch who yuh callin idiot cuz yuh soundin real mummu right now lol

non-Rhotic is when you don't pronounce the 'r' unless it is before a vowel.

So even when we say 'gorsh' - the 'r' is still not heard but the 'o' is prolonged/stretched out.

Trini are non-rhotic but also have the intrusive R e.g 'Saw it' becomes 'Saw-rit' and the linking R.
Exactly.
 

A.K.K.S.

New member
Comparison Of Western Caribbean Creole Englishes (MCC = Nicaragua):


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As you can see they are all related, but Belize and Jamaica are furthest removed from one another. All the rest are somewhat intermediate
 

countyourpennies

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man for some reason i hear alot of similarities between V.I (slap chop) and belize. idk if im trippin or not lol but even a while back when BET had that college hill show i always thought they sounded similar to us
 

A.K.K.S.

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man for some reason i hear alot of similarities between V.I (slap chop) and belize. idk if im trippin or not lol but even a while back when BET had that college hill show i always thought they sounded similar to us
I was thinking that too, but not as similar are like West Indian Panamanians or Creoles from Nicaragua
 

countyourpennies

Registered User
I was thinking that too, but not as similar are like West Indian Panamanians or Creoles from Nicaragua
Man thats crazy i didnt even know peolple from Nicaragua spoke like that. Is that a large part of that country that speak that way or a small community. But yea i can def hear the differneces in accent with V.I and us, but i can understand them..Grendadines, i had to watch like 20 times haha

P.S That slap chop video was funny af haha
 

A.K.K.S.

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Man thats crazy i didnt even know peolple from Nicaragua spoke like that. Is that a large part of that country that speak that way or a small community?
Small, but they are on the entire Caribbean Coast from Puerto Cabezas to Bluefields. They very have a history there since the 1700's. They even look like Kriol people in Belize.

Listen to the woman at 1:29, and tell that doesn't sound just like a Belizean:
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Now compare this to Belizean Kriol:
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But yea i can def hear the differneces in accent with V.I and us, but i can understand them..Grendadines, i had to watch like 20 times haha

P.S That slap chop video was funny af haha
Yup lol
 

jamaicangirl

Boonoonoonoos
Comparison Of Western Caribbean Creole Englishes (MCC = Nicaragua):


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As you can see they are all related, but Belize and Jamaica are furthest removed from one another. All the rest are somewhat intermediate
Within Jamaican language there is variety. For example, you very rarely hear someone say "ben/wen" as in "mi ben go". They are more likely to say "mi did go" or "mi go" for "I went". But "mi ben go" is still correct. It is probably just more old-fashioned or more rural.
 

A.K.K.S.

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Within Jamaican language there is variety. For example, you very rarely hear someone say "ben/wen" as in "mi ben go". They are more likely to say "mi did go" or "mi go" for "I went". But "mi ben go" is still correct. It is probably just more old-fashioned or more rural.
I've always assumed so. Belizeans only use "did" to confirm a false positive. Otherwise, we use "mi" as a past tense marker. And Belizeans use the past tense "doz". Not sure why they claim we don't.

As you can see the creoles/patois spoken in Belize, Jamaica, Panama, San Andres and Providence and the Caribbean coast of Nicaragua are related to one another
 

SKBai1991

Registered User
I've always assumed so. Belizeans only use "did" to confirm a false positive. Otherwise, we use "mi" as a past tense marker. And Belizeans use the past tense "doz". Not sure why they claim we don't.

As you can see the creoles/patois spoken in Belize, Jamaica, Panama, San Andres and Providence and the Caribbean coast of Nicaragua are related to one another
we actually use similar tense markers in the leeward islands as well. Kittitians would say did (but kinda leave off the last d) in the same way as a past tense marker, while antiguans would say min. Dominicans who speak Kokoy also say min in the same way Belizeans say mi.
 

A.K.K.S.

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Bahamians and Bajans sound the exact same IMO:

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A.K.K.S.

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Real talk Belizean Kriol:

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jamaicangirl

Boonoonoonoos
Bahamians and Bajans sound the exact same IMO:

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Are you smoking something? NO ONE sounds like Bajans. They have the most unique accent IMO.

But, I mostly want to say that the little corner of the house and the yard really remind me of the Caribbean. I am so homesick!!!
 
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