Rape horror: Teen pregnancy in T&T... Serious Topic.

Taj

Loyalty to Loyalty
‘Parents unaware of laws relating to statutory rape’


(Story Updated: Feb 6, 2014 at 12:11 AM ECT )

Parents in this country are unaware of the laws of the land, which state it is statutory rape to have sexual intercourse with a child under the age of 14, says Joanne James, Assistant Commissioner of the police outreach programme.

“If something is not known to you, then you will not be aware. If a parent doesn’t know, she may not know the child is sexually active; and even if she does, she may not know there is a law that says your child’s ‘yes’ means ‘no’ because the statutes provide that a child under the age of 14 cannot consent,” said James.
She was responding to questions from the Express following a seminar on polygraph testing in business hosted by the Chamber of Commerce at its Westmoorings headquarters.
James said this country was in its worst time, but there is hope.
“There is hope. There is hope because there is God, there is hope because the nation has a heart and we will surmount and move beyond this. I think we are in our worst of times and it can only get better,” she said.
James said one of the problems facing society was the lack of education with respect to the laws.
She said the police outreach programmes, through collaborative efforts with all stakeholders, will embark on a campaign to educate the public and create a holistic strategy in addressing the society’s ills.
She said in order to deal with community decay, the public must come together to ensure “the village really raises a child”.
James said there is also the problem with parents not being involved in their children’s lives and the generation today being caught up in a world of media.
“The youth, there are so many distractions, a click of the mouse away, Googling. Your parents could have sit on the verandah or what you would call the gallery and look at what you do, see you playing in the yard, hopscotch, moral, girls and boys playing together. They always had that watchful eye. Where is the parent today? Where is the caregiver... the person seem to be invisible,” she said.
James said parents, teachers and neighbours all need to come together and protect the children.
James joined the Police Service at the age of 19 and has served for the past 37 years.
She said as a mother and grandmother, the murders today are horrendous but the public needs to question what is going wrong and work together to fix it.
She said when a person is murdered, one also has to take into consideration that the murderer has a mother; and what did that mother do wrong in raising her child?
James said the lives of young men need to be touched in a positive way to ensure they have values and morals to pass on to their own children.
She said just as there are mothers who are training their boys to do the right thing, there are also mothers who are training their daughters to do wrong, and responsibility lies in the hands of parents to nurture their children and be proper examples themselves.
is she an idiot?
Like really she believes that??????

STEUPS!!!!

Plus IMO the mentality is telling that by law the age is 14, it should be higher.
 

notorious saga

Sagattarius
is she an idiot?
Like really she believes that??????

STEUPS!!!!

Plus IMO the mentality is telling that by law the age is 14, it should be higher.
Same thing I was thinking, what parent won't know that? The whole age of consent law in T&T need to be revised and change.
 

Mrs. Campbell

Girl Crush
is she an idiot?
Like really she believes that??????

STEUPS!!!!

Plus IMO the mentality is telling that by law the age is 14, it should be higher.
Don't buy it either. Even if you are not aware, by nature/gut feeling...you should know something is wrong when your daughter says some big hard back man been riding her chest.
 

Naughtyshawtie

Self Made
HELP US CATCH THEM

Police call on parents, schools and hospitals to report underage pregnancies, so cops can nab rapists.

Story Created: Feb 6, 2014 at 12:12 AM ECT

THE Trinidad and Tobago Police Service is asking schools and hospitals to report incidents of teenage pregnancies to better arm officers with enough information to investigate and prosecute in possible cases of statutory rape and/or sexual assault.
This according to Insp Wayne Mystar, of the Police Service’s Communications Unit, as he addressed reporters yesterday following the service’s weekly police press briefing at its Port of Spain headquarters.
On Tuesday, Education Minister Dr Tim Gopeesingh disclosed that there were over 2,500 teen pregnancies a year, most of them for fathers in the 25-to-40-years age group.
He described it as a “frightening” situation, as the minister responded to questions filed by Independent Senator Dr Victor Wheeler in the Senate on Tuesday.
Gopeesingh said the country had to get a handle on the issue of statutory rape because this teenage pregnancy situation cannot continue.
“If people (fathers) are apprehended, there might be fear among the perpetrators, and therefore it could serve as a deterrent to statutory rape,” he said.
Insp Mystar explained yesterday, “Once the matter has been reported we will deal with it, and we are asking schools and hospitals to assist us in this regard because these are crimes that have to be brought to court.”
Asked, however, about those girls who were threatened by their attackers following an incident of rape or sexual assault, Insp Mystar replied, “Whether this young person gives consent or not, once she is under the age it is an offence.”
Asked about a sexual offenders database and if there is one, Insp Mystar replied, “I can’t comment on that right now.”
In 2012, however, there was a proposal for such and in April 2012 then deputy commissioner of police Mervyn Richardson said work had begun in establishing a sexual offenders database. At the time, he noted it would strictly be for use by “law-enforcement personnel and would not be accessible to members of the public”.
Minister Gopeesingh’s disclosure comes on the heels of a news story from south Trinidad last week, where a 12-year-old primary school pupil became pregnant after she was allegedly raped by the father of her sister’s child. The suspect then threatened to kill her if she told anyone.
The incident occurred in Princes Town and the matter was reported to the Princes Town Police Station on January 9, but by that time she was already five months’ pregnant.
Relatives however complained they were not satisfied with the police response.
A relative said of the Standard Five pupil told reporters last week, “The 12-year-old girl has an older sister with a baby. The older sister and the child’s father are separated, but he asked if they can spend a weekend with him at his house. The older sister asked the 12-year-old to go with her to the man’s house in Princes Town. That was where she was assaulted.”
A police report stated the child’s older sister and the baby were asleep when the 25-year-old man assaulted her.
The relative of the child continued, “He told her he would kill her if she told anyone. And he said if the girl’s mother found out, she would put her out of the house. She was traumatised and afraid to tell anyone.”
The Ministry of the People has begun to give the 12-year-old several counselling sessions and the baby is going to be given up for adoption when born.
where is the article calling on police to do their job?....once a child gets pregnant or gives birth more often than not it is reported...teachers, principals, etc can be charged or lose their jobs if they dont report it....and most times it is reported....i have heard of numerous instances where police dont follow up or because the mother say she eh want no bacchanal they dont pursue the case.....
 

notorious saga

Sagattarius
Hmmm

120 incest cases

Friday, February 7 2014

THERE were 120 reported cases of incest with minors between 2011 and 2012, according to statistics released by the Police Service yesterday.

According to a press release on teenage pregnancies, issued by the Public Affairs Unit of the Police Service, in 2011 there were 95 reports of the offence, which is defined as sex between blood relations. In 2012 there were 25 reports.

The Police Service said there was a “100 percent detection rate” in relation to the offence, meaning all reported cases resulted in charges.

The Police Service also gave statistics on reports of cases of sex with minors. It said between 2011 to 2013 there were 331 reports of sexual intercourse with minors. Of these, 189, or 57 percent, resulted in charges.

In relation to sex with minors between the ages 14 to 16, there were 488 reports between 2011 and 2013. Of these, 243 resulted in charges.

Meanwhile, the Family Planning Association (FPA) yesterday weighed in on the ongoing discussion on the problem of teenage pregnancies in the wake of disclosure of statistics by Education Minister Dr Tim Gopeesingh that on average there are 2,500 such pregnancies per year.

The FPA actually give its own statistics which indicated the figure could actually be higher. It said in the year 2000, 2,638 children, representing 15 percent of all live births in Trinidad and Tobago, gave birth. It said in 2013, the rate was 14.7 percent.

“Pregnancy in adolescence places an insurmountable barrier in the young woman’s path to competent adulthood,” it noted. The association linked the problem to attitudes about gender roles.

“Traditional gender-roles often trap young people into high-risk sexual behaviour,” it said. “Girls who get pregnant by boys or men, who say to them that they must prove their love by having sex; and boys who have had no guidance on how to be healthy, manly, and secure in their sexuality, so that they need not be aggressive and sexually coercive.”

The FPA, which offers family planning services, continued, “We see teenagers living in poverty and overcrowding. We see many adolescents for whom sex is linked with coercion, violence and abuse. We see girls as well as boys, raised in a climate of domestic violence, child abuse and neglect, with little opportunity for acquiring positive self-esteem; indeed in situations where there is no love.”

In a press release, FPA also indicated that research suggests that the average age of first sexual intercourse is now 14. The body called for increased funding to combat teenage pregnancy.

Programme coordinator of the non-profit organisation Parenting TT, Barbara King, on Wednesday said it is the responsibility of not just the State but also of parents and communities to ensure that children are kept in a safe environment if real change is to happen.

“It is the responsibility of parents and communities to make sure that those children are safe,” King said. “There are not enough Government ministers, not enough police officers to deal with this. There must be real change from the ground level. For this situation to improve there must be action from the ground up.”

King said the statistics were alarming not only because of the number of girls becoming pregnant, but because of what it reveals about the level of paedophile activity that is going unchecked. “I think the angle that’s being missed is there must be 2,500 paedophiles out there, assuming each girl is impregnated by a separate person,” King said. “What are we doing about that? This means there are 2,500 paedophiles, in addition to 2,500 children who are unprepared for parenthood.”

She noted the impact of this situation will be inter-generational.

“A total of 2,500 children who are unprepared for parenthood is a serious cause for concern and we need to get to them,” she said. “We have a situation where children are having children.”

ParentingTT, formerly known as Trinidad and Tobago Innovative Parenting Support (TTIPS) is a non-profit organisation registered with the Ministry of Legal Affairs since 2001.

The press release continued, “There are critical decisions to be made when a teen becomes pregnant and support and guidance is very important.

SEXUAL INTERCOURSE WITH MINORS

UNDER 14

Cases Charges

2011 125 64

2012 126 81

2013 80 44

BETWEEN 14 - 16

2011 145 67

2012 226 133

2013 117 43
 

jamaicangirl

Boonoonoonoos
relocating the post here
Oh my gosh! That means that the man who raped her is her niece/nephew's father? That child will grow up knowing their father raped Auntie when she was a little girl.

I can see how the sister feels bad because I was wondering how the child was left unsupervised with a 25 yo man but the sister was sick and the guy was probably like family.

The other thing is the family type- the sister has a child out of wedlock, the mother has multiple children and is not married nor able to provide for them. I know that it is illegal to talk about morals on IMIX but the child growing up in that environment is at risk of this sort of thing. Everyone knows that unmarried mothers have girls who become unmarried mothers and unmarried mothers are often poorer than married ones. Teen moms are also more likely to have daughters who get pregnant as teens. They don't say the ages of the kids but if Mommy is a grandma already at 41, then she had children during the time she was supposed to be in college.

The man should be executed.
 

jamaicangirl

Boonoonoonoos
This is the problem in the Caribbean, mothers and other people in authority turn a blind eye on the situations because XYZ putting food on the table. dunno if this is still going on but I heard back in the days if a girl mother knew john or tom had money and doing good for himself, even if john or tom was 40+yrs old, the mother would try send her daughter to live/marry the man.

Everytime I hear these stories it reminds me of the Mano Benjamin aka the beast of Biche story.
I was just going to give the example of that same movie. Money talks. When I was in second form a girl got beaten up by her big brother and when I ask what did the police say the girl said that the mother didn't call the police because it was the brother working the money for rent and school fee, etc. I have never forgotten that. It is not really the same thing but it is a reason why women should not EVER leave school without an advanced education and an ability to support themselves. They should not have unprotected sex (or sex at all) unless they are trying to become pregnant.
 

notorious saga

Sagattarius
PRINCIPAL ON 75 SEX CHARGES

Story Updated: Feb 8, 2014

A principal of a Tobago school is expected to appear before a Scarborough Magistrate tomorrow facing 75 sex charges. The man was arrested at his home by Scarborough police on Friday night, and was charged under the Sexual Offences Act with allegedly committing offences of a sexual nature against a 12-year-old girl and other minors. Sources told the Sunday Express that several girls came forward with their story to the police. Police officials later visited a primary school on the island and interviewed staff and some pupils. The principal was subsequently suspended following an internal investigation but was arrested by Tobago police on Friday. Last Friday during a press conference, Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar read the riot act to citizens of this country, reminding the general public that people can face jail time if evidence of minors being sexually active is not reported. She said people can face seven years in prison and a fine of $15,000 is the punishment, parents, doctors, nurses, teachers and employers face if these matters were not reported. According to Section 6(1) of the Sexual Offences Act anyone who is found guilty of having sex with a female under 14, who is not their wife, is liable to be imprisoned to life in prison. Section 7 (1) of the Sexual Offences Act says a first-time offender who has sex with a female between the age of 14 and 16, who is not their wife, is liable to 12 years in prison. A repeat offender faces 15 years imprisonment, Section 7(1) states. Persad-Bissessar described rape of minors as “heinous” and said no excuses should be tolerated. “They are heinous crimes against children, six-year-olds, seven-year-olds, a child’s life is gone forever,” Persad-Bissessar said.
 

dedetriniking

Registered User
gosh boy....how in blazes can a girl under the age of 14 be sexually attractive to any man out there! This is not a natural thing...the girl just started puberty for chrissakes. geez!
 

Alpha Unit

Insurgent
PRINCIPAL ON 75 SEX CHARGES

Story Updated: Feb 8, 2014

A principal of a Tobago school is expected to appear before a Scarborough Magistrate tomorrow facing 75 sex charges. The man was arrested at his home by Scarborough police on Friday night, and was charged under the Sexual Offences Act with allegedly committing offences of a sexual nature against a 12-year-old girl and other minors. Sources told the Sunday Express that several girls came forward with their story to the police. Police officials later visited a primary school on the island and interviewed staff and some pupils. The principal was subsequently suspended following an internal investigation but was arrested by Tobago police on Friday. Last Friday during a press conference, Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar read the riot act to citizens of this country, reminding the general public that people can face jail time if evidence of minors being sexually active is not reported. She said people can face seven years in prison and a fine of $15,000 is the punishment, parents, doctors, nurses, teachers and employers face if these matters were not reported. According to Section 6(1) of the Sexual Offences Act anyone who is found guilty of having sex with a female under 14, who is not their wife, is liable to be imprisoned to life in prison. Section 7 (1) of the Sexual Offences Act says a first-time offender who has sex with a female between the age of 14 and 16, who is not their wife, is liable to 12 years in prison. A repeat offender faces 15 years imprisonment, Section 7(1) states. Persad-Bissessar described rape of minors as “heinous” and said no excuses should be tolerated. “They are heinous crimes against children, six-year-olds, seven-year-olds, a child’s life is gone forever,” Persad-Bissessar said.

So wait ah fockin minute here, yuh could marrid ah gyul unda 14 an bull she legally?! I hope deze fockin morons amend this dotish shit expeditiously! :nea:
 

jamaicangirl

Boonoonoonoos
seems pedophilia is a right of passage throughout the West indies cause everybody wearing blinders....
Our culture is too "permissive".

Sexual music, sexual dancing, laughing at virgins, profanity, revealing clothes, no supervision, no morals, etc.

They are not wearing blinders. They agree with all of the above behavior and they think that it is normal and not bad.
 

notorious saga

Sagattarius
So, 14 yo is fair game?
That's not what Dede was insinuating but back in the days in Trini they had a saying "after 12 is lunch". if T&T was serious about this stuff they would have cracked down on these actions years ago. Maxi men toting away young girls in the front seat of their Maxi taxi, young girls riding all day when school in session, then going maracas beach limin wid maxi men. if you see a young girl in a maxi when school in session that should be a red flag.

Just last year or maybe earlier this year, they been searching for a young girl that's been missing from her parents home for days. they finally caught up with her limin in a house with a older boy, her parents was acting normal normal saying they just glad she saf - that couldn't be the first time she did that nonsense.
 

Poca

Registered User
There is so much that I want to say about this topic but, it will take too much from me. All I can say now is that, it's mainly a mentality issue. The kind of mentality that differanciates between "developed "nations and the others. I'm not saying that these things do not happen in those kind if countries but the way they are addressed and dealt with give the tone about their general view and acceptance. The same way people say that money doesn't but class, it's the same way with social development and awareness. Money doesn't buy them either. It sure can mask the lack of it though.
 

Oneshot

where de crix
Our culture is too "permissive".

Sexual music, sexual dancing, laughing at virgins, profanity, revealing clothes, no supervision, no morals, etc.

They are not wearing blinders. They agree with all of the above behavior and they think that it is normal and not bad.
really? you blame rape on no supervision.

the problem is purely corruption. no rule of a law. you dont need morals to execute the law.
 

jamaicangirl

Boonoonoonoos
really? you blame rape on no supervision.

the problem is purely corruption. no rule of a law. you dont need morals to execute the law.
No. Wrong.

You don't need the law when there are morals. Laws require policing. Parental rules require supervision- so you are even contradicting yourself.

The title says rape but most of this thread is about statutory rape- that can be prevented with SUPERVISION and PARENTING and MORALS. If the parents don't care and don't report that their child is not attending school or their child has a boyfriend,etc. how are the police even going to be come involved. I could never have dated a man when I was a teenager because I was raised to believe that was wrong and, even if I didn't have any morals, I was SUPERVISED and parented. There was no opportunity for me to be raped.
 

notorious saga

Sagattarius
No. Wrong.

You don't need the law when there are morals. Laws require policing. Parental rules require supervision- so you are even contradicting yourself.

The title says rape but most of this thread is about statutory rape- that can be prevented with SUPERVISION and PARENTING and MORALS. If the parents don't care and don't report that their child is not attending school or their child has a boyfriend,etc. how are the police even going to be come involved. I could never have dated a man when I was a teenager because I was raised to believe that was wrong and, even if I didn't have any morals, I was SUPERVISED and parented. There was no opportunity for me to be raped.
You need the law because there seems to be a breakdown in morals in the modern households today, that supervision you're talking about is a thing of the past in most families - mother and father working and kids being semi-supervised by old grandma, keep in mind that most families in the islands live close knit, most times uncle is still living at home in grandma house or close by, easy access and target for young family members.

There was an article a while ago in the Trinidad newspapers where this young girl was raped by a relative and her mother moved to a different location because the authorities was looking for her, now is that moral values and supervision? also the caribbean have a hidden agena when it comes to sexual taboos - everything is hidden in the darkness and made to look dirty or ungodly. anything sexual is looked down upon by the older heads, yet they are the main culprits in the nasty behavior. in the islands children are raised sheltered from the real life, do we even talk about the no touching in schools by anybody? how many households talk about sex with their kids when they reach the right age?
 
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