Three women missing for about 10yrs finally found.

EloquenceInc

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this is some wild shit.. and scary...because so many people disappear and nobody knows.. but think about something else.. that child has to get therapy, the 6 year old, because imagine growing up and finding out that your father kidnapped and raped your mother... also can you probably imagine what those brothers (2 years apart) may have carried out in their youth if in their old age they band together to kidnap women??

another thing to consider.. if these girls were black, would people have still be looking for them? it's scary the amount of people that disappear on a daily basis that nobody bothers tolook for.. i'm going to find the pic on the notice board that has nuff people of color disappeared..
it's really frightful.. and all these girls are around 15/16/17...

Well, to be honest, no one was really "looking" for these 3 girls either, the families of course still held out hope, but not looking...the one smart girl saw a break and had not given up hope, she used it, and Mr. Ramsey did not do the normal thing and try to avoid getting involved in what most would assume is some domestic dispute.

Cause if he had not decided to act as he did, she would still be trapped, and who knows when next the opportunity to get out would have presented itself...another 10 years?

By then the child would be a teenager and most assuredly raped and tortured and impregnated as well.

I am waiting to see more news on his daughters, and some interviews with the other parent...we need to fill in the blanks on these monsters lives so we out here who have children get a sense of the type of things that can seem normal and not be, or are warning signs that are ignored.

My whole goal with this story is to find some takeaway points to aid me in the prevention better than cure policy.

I will definitely encourage my own from early about shedding typical female dependence on a ride to and from from men. Even in Jamaica these days I've been told women generally don't accept rides from ANY man driving a taxi even if the taxi marked, cause he might just drive off with you and rape you or something...they develop a (business) relationship with a taxi driver known to someone they know, and use that taxi driver all the time, or a route taxi that is common enough along the route they are going that he is known. Not just random drivers.

So even with "public" transport people are being careful in situations where you end up one on one potentially with the driver, who is still a stranger and you are still at his mercy.

Even the guy I nearly got in the accident with, he wasn't a TOTAL stranger either as the girl saying to me, i saw him at a place i stopped at frequently and he one day asked me out...but i had no sense of his habits and personality, mentality the way you would with a friend, before getting in his vehicle...so still a stranger... I mean intuition plays a role in it too, but hey, I learned my lesson, and as I said, it could have been worse...although he wasn't black either, he was Arab. Which should have told me something because he is not suppose to be drinking alcohol, and there he went had barely a glass or two and couldn't manage. If i had been his friend and been around him long enough to know his habits, I would have known dude cannot handle his liquor...that's prevention better than cure. Still his fault for being an idiot on the first date, but had I DIED that night you think that would be any consolation whose fault it is?

So I feel anyway...others may disagree...
 

ladyrastafari

Notchilous
that is very true Brownlius.. i have heard about drivers raping girls.. that happened to a friend of mine.. she got into a taxi goign to her home like any other day and the driver went off route and took her to a cane field and raped her.....

i would advise everybody to know where all the sex offenders live in your neighborhood as well.. because there are rapists living among you and pervs of all kinds.. like that fairly young man they caught in Queens the other night who forces a 7 year old to perform oral sex on him, eh also exposed himself to another 7 year old and clearly had been getting involved with these type of sick incidents...

and i find queens is crazy on the rape tip ... to me i am always reading about some kinda rape in Queens.. always reading about it or seeing it on the news... maybe cos its so quiet and lonely..
 

EloquenceInc

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Some missing children are runaways, and may have runaway from a situation just as bad, or worse, than the fire they jump in being alone and vulnerable.

I wonder how many of these porn stars are adults whose child picture is on some missing children wall of fame somewhere in America?
 

Minxy

New member
These sickos know EXACTLY who to target, and its always troubled kids...i found out last year that a close friend of the family, u know ur play uncles and aunties, well he molested damn near errybody but me...he must have KNOWN that i wasn't going down without a fight and my daddy would have :butcher: him....shit is cray cray :no2:
 

ladyrastafari

Notchilous
it's not always troubled kids.. there are children who are just pure and innocent who get molested... so thats wrong.. maybe he simply didnt want to molest you cos you didnt draw him in... might be simply that.. same way every perp has a type of victim that he looks for.. child molesters are no different
 

Colors

STEADY WUK
Something is really sick about this family the dad as we can see is a sick individual, then his daughter in prison for 25 to life for slashing her daughter throat at 11 months because of a break up with boyfriend and now they are saying the daughter Arlene lied when on AMW ......all I can do is shake my head

Is it me or have you notice nobody is focus on Mr. Ramsey anymore.....the families are thanking everyone and the son of God but no mention of Mr. Ramsey hmmmmmmmmmm
 

mz_JazE

Southern Belle
In regards to this sickos children, I believe (from what I heard on the news) that they were living in separate houses. Living with their mother(s), so that could be why they didn't know what was going on.
 

Minxy

New member
it's not always troubled kids.. there are children who are just pure and innocent who get molested... so thats wrong.. maybe he simply didnt want to molest you cos you didnt draw him in... might be simply that.. same way every perp has a type of victim that he looks for.. child molesters are no different
Well thats how they are pegged, as predators, who prey on the weak...thank god he pass me yes :no2:
 

EloquenceInc

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So where a break-in-one-night-kidnap-my-daughter type scenario is non-preventable, i look at these girls and say their parents could have prevented this...especially Amanda who called her parents to tell them she is getting a ride home...they didn't ask who? They didn't know who...if they cared they would have asked...all the vigil they kept after she was gone was a vigil they should have kept when she was around...I'm sorry...I feel it for her...
 

EloquenceInc

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it's not always troubled kids.. there are children who are just pure and innocent who get molested... so thats wrong.. maybe he simply didnt want to molest you cos you didnt draw him in... might be simply that.. same way every perp has a type of victim that he looks for.. child molesters are no different
Exactly, and if all her friends around her are a different race from her, as she's said before, then it can be his type is not an indian girl.

Same way there was a rapist on the loose in Boulder, Colorado when I was out there, but all his victims were slim dark haired white women...I'm black, I was safe to come and go as I please...
 

Alpha Unit

Insurgent
Exactly, and if all her friends around her are a different race from her, as she's said before, then it can be his type is not an indian girl.

Same way there was a rapist on the loose in Boulder, Colorado when I was out there, but all his victims were slim dark haired white women...I'm black, I was safe to come and go as I please...
I sure he had odda reasons to dodge yuh lol
 

EloquenceInc

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I sure he had odda reasons to dodge yuh lol
Lol Only time he would have really had access was when I was waiting on the bus after work, cause it was pitch black dem hours cause I use to stop at the office gym on the way home.

Boulder was good for me, everybody so healthy you can't help but be on your game too.
 

EloquenceInc

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Probly posted already but...omgggg

Total madness...this girl was kidnapped from hell into one of the deeper cracks of hell...seems the man/men had a knack for spotting girls whose parents didn't give a d-mn or didn't know how to be loving caring PARENTS... from a commenter
"Find that poor, damaged now-deaf girl someone who will love her & teach her sign language & comfort her for probably never having a child in her life, (cuz she was the one he kept beating her until she miscarried FIVE BABIES!! OMG!) She'll never be 'right" for the rest of her life, I think the other girls stand a chance but not this poor girl & even less for those cold dead fish she's obligated to call her parents. No other reason! Disgusting!
Read more: Michelle Knight: Kidnapping victim has 'hearing damage and facial injuries from years of beatings' | Mail Online
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notorious saga

Sagattarius
More info on how the girls were captured and Amanda escaping from inside the house.

Ohio Kidnapping Police Report Details Victims' Abductions, Years In Captivity




A police report brought to light more disturbing details of the kidnapping of three Ohio women imprisoned in a squalid house for about decade.

Amanda Berry, Gina DeJesus and Michelle Knight vanished from the area within two years of each other, and were recovered Monday from a home on Seymour Avenue in Cleveland after neighbors heard Berry screaming for help. Ariel Castro, 52, is accused of having abducted, imprisoned and abused the young women, all of whom gave statements for the police report, which was obtained recently by several news outlets, including the the Cleveland Plain Dealer, NBC local affiliate WKYC and The New York Times.

Among the information in the report is an account from Michelle Knight, abducted in 2002, about how she was impregnated by Castro at least five times. Knight told police Castro caused her to miscarry by starving and beating her.

Amanda Berry, abducted in April of 2003, also became pregnant while being held in the house. Knight told police that she served as Berry's midwife, and that Castro threatened to kill her if the baby did not survive.

Castro allegedly ensnared his victims by luring them into his car. Berry told police that she was walking home from work at Burger King when Castro pulled over to offer her a ride home, claiming that his son also worked at the restaurant.

Gina DeJesus, who vanished in 2004 while she was walking home from school, told police that Castro initially approached her in his car with his daughter, whom DeJesus reportedly knew well. DeJesus said Castro later returned in his car alone and said he would driver her to his house so the girls could hang out.

At the time they were rescued, the women were living in separate rooms on the second floor of the house. Earlier in their captivity they had been chained in the basement of the house.

Berry's opportunity for freedom came when Castro went out for McDonald's on Monday but forgot to lock the "big inside door." An outer storm door, however, was still locked. Berry told police she was scared to try and open it because she feared Castro was testing her.

A law enforcement official explained to CNN that Castro allegedly tested the women frequently as a way to gain their obedience. The women told police that he would pretend to leave the house but would return quickly to see whether they'd moved. If they had, he would punish them.

Once Berry was free, police reportedly went inside and made their way to the second floor. The Plain Dealer notes that police found Knight in a bedroom on the second floor. She ran into an officer's arms, reportedly saying to him, "You saved me."

WKYC reports that the women recalled being allowed outside only twice in the decade they were held. Both times they moved through the backyard to the garage. Even then, they told police, they were forced to wear sunglasses and wigs.

A cousin of Gina DeJesus told the New York Times that Castro allegedly served the women cake to mark the anniversary of each of their abductions.

Castro has been charged with four counts of kidnapping -- the additional count is for the child he is thought to have fathered with Berry -- and three counts of rape.
 

notorious saga

Sagattarius
Gina DeJesus, who vanished in 2004 while she was walking home from school, told police that Castro initially approached her in his car with his daughter, whom DeJesus reportedly knew well. DeJesus said Castro later returned in his car alone and said he would driver her to his house so the girls could hang out.
I Wondering now if the daughter had any speculations that her father could of abducted Gina when the missing report was broadcast?
 

EloquenceInc

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im confused.. why did he beat her till she miscarried?? why was one allowed to bear a child but the other not?
This is what I'm wondering too. Maybe Amanda Berry was the less feisty one?

5 miscarriages...some women have trouble getting pregnant after a single miscarriage. She fertile bad bad bad. But now if she ever manages a normal relationship and gets pregnant again, it might be hard to carry it to term after that much damage.

Just have to believe in prayer when dark evil like this comes to light.
 
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